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Activision reveals Call of Duty: Modern Warfare

Toxic34

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Well, I will certainly say that it truly looks impressive, and it should be quite a blast. Of course, there a few things I wonder. How much of a reboot is this game? Is it basically a soft reboot like Mad Max Fury Road, where the previous installments may or may not have happened, and it's up to you to decide, or is it strictly a new version that is its own continuity?

The other thing is that it has already been revealed that there will be a level involving child soldiers, and playing from their point of view, and already the press is starting to line up to crucify IW, basically going "have you learned nothing from MW2?" And of course leading to a laundry list of complaints, from "The Coup" in the first game, to repeating the controversy around "No Russian", saying that IW didn't respond well to it when it was questioned, and talking about the original trilogy being "problematic", especially revolving around the al-Asad thread in the original game. But the thing is that, except for "No Russian" and the press's litany of complaints, no one had anything negative about these games and the narrative at that point in time, and they were very well received, especially by the public. Basically, history is being rewritten, and it's always something that irritates me. But what do you all have to say about it?
 

Carlos

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Well, I will certainly say that it truly looks impressive, and it should be quite a blast. Of course, there a few things I wonder. How much of a reboot is this game? Is it basically a soft reboot like Mad Max Fury Road, where the previous installments may or may not have happened, and it's up to you to decide, or is it strictly a new version that is its own continuity?
They've said that this "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare" is a reimagining, not a full reboot, but a soft reboot. I think that they're leaving it up to you to decide where this game is taking place. Many youtubers said that this is a clean slate. Drift0r, PrestigeIsKey, Chaos, and other youtubers were flown out to Infinity Ward's HQ to get the feel for Modern Warfare.
The other thing is that it has already been revealed that there will be a level involving child soldiers, and playing from their point of view, and already the press is starting to line up to crucify IW, basically going "have you learned nothing from MW2?" And of course leading to a laundry list of complaints, from "The Coup" in the first game, to repeating the controversy around "No Russian", saying that IW didn't respond well to it when it was questioned, and talking about the original trilogy being "problematic", especially revolving around the al-Asad thread in the original game. But the thing is that, except for "No Russian" and the press's litany of complaints, no one had anything negative about these games and the narrative at that point in time, and they were very well received, especially by the public. Basically, history is being rewritten, and it's always something that irritates me. But what do you all have to say about it?
They've already started that kind of line of thinking on some websites right now. The Quartering responded to their hottakes, and I agree with him on everything he said.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74okB5F9nlE

First of all, this controversy started WAY before Call of Duty 2019 was even a thing. Some service men of our own military has been accused of war crimes, but the thing is - violence in the Middle East is common place. I just linked you to one of the stories there, but if you search "military accused of war crimes" you'll quickly realize that many journalists don't realize that violence on the other side of the world is horribly violent. I was watching a show on TV, and they did EXACTLY what you described: A woman carrying a baby, and you gotta make a choice. Take the risk of shooting the lady and/or the baby, or another action. Lady revealed the baby as the bomb, and a seal member was like 'BOMB!' I don't remember the rest of it, but the point being, that's the reality over there. These journalists overblow the stories. They overplay, blow things out of proportion - but these servicemen have to think about themselves and their fellow bravo team members. I suggest YOU to go on any TV network and look for War stories. I will name a few...

- Shooter (yes, based on the film)
- Kings (canceled, but its on Hulu)
- Seal Team
- S.W.A.T (its close to military, its a police force but with federal privileges)

Right now, is both a good time and a bad time to controversial themes like this. 1. Journalists overplay the stories. 2. Fake news is on the rise. 3. Political Correctness is on the rise (which is why journalists are already crying wolf about "female representation." Despite the fact there ARE women in the game, you even play as a girl who survived a purge by the Russians.) I have more, but I think you got the point.

If you don't believe me, just watch this one:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZiD8WkL2vo

Look at how the owner of a website was trying to explain the situation. We ALL know that the "No Russian" incident was about YOU going undercover, and yes, you kill civilians, however... If you kill Makarov or his team, you blow your cover. The media doesn't want anyone to know that. Convenient, isn't it?
 

Toxic34

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Even before this, before we got into the state of journalism as it is now, back when there was the biggest wave of moral panic over representation of violence in the media and overblown fears about its effects on youth violence in the '90s, the press would take elements from popular games and movies out of context. I still see many books debating the issue, even written from fairly recently, that lift the famous fantasy sequence from the film The Basketball Diaries in which Jim Carroll daydreams about killing his teacher, dressed in a trenchoat, as what the film as a whole is about, when it's a small part in a story about a teen's struggle with addiction to heroin and its effect on his life as a whole. Or an article back in '98 in which a father chastised his son for playing GoldenEye, because the idiot kid didn't realize you're supposed to keep the scientists safe, not blow them away, and the dad used that infamous catch-all term "murder simulator." Apparently, he didn't even realize the game was connected in any way to James Bond.

So, even if we weren't in the era of "alternative facts", there would basically still be the same types of stories about the levels themselves, but maybe not so much revisionism about how the games themselves are being received. I don't know if it would stop haters from calling the franchise "the Nickelback of video games, where if you've played one game, you've played them all." Talk about a very surface-level analysis.

P.S. I'm not dragging politics in with the "alternative facts" quote, just using it as a representation of the era we live in now.
 

Ik0n

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I don't care about any of the politics, I hope this reboot can rekindle CoD for me. I absolutely loved Call of Duty 4. Fingers crossed they do it justice.

Not a good start when you say 'new engine' AGAIN when it's just the modified version of the engine you've been using for years now... you'd think they learn from criticism saying they're using a new engine.
 

Carlos

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I don't care about any of the politics, I hope this reboot can rekindle CoD for me. I absolutely loved Call of Duty 4. Fingers crossed they do it justice.
First off, I don't care about any of the politics, too. I too want this to rekindle CoD for me.
P.S. I'm not dragging politics in with the "alternative facts" quote, just using it as a representation of the era we live in now.
I know that. I'm not, either.
Even before this, before we got into the state of journalism as it is now, back when there was the biggest wave of moral panic over representation of violence in the media and overblown fears about its effects on youth violence in the '90s, the press would take elements from popular games and movies out of context. I still see many books debating the issue, even written from fairly recently, that lift the famous fantasy sequence from the film The Basketball Diaries in which Jim Carroll daydreams about killing his teacher, dressed in a trenchoat, as what the film as a whole is about, when it's a small part in a story about a teen's struggle with addiction to heroin and its effect on his life as a whole. Or an article back in '98 in which a father chastised his son for playing GoldenEye, because the idiot kid didn't realize you're supposed to keep the scientists safe, not blow them away, and the dad used that infamous catch-all term "murder simulator." Apparently, he didn't even realize the game was connected in any way to James Bond.

So, even if we weren't in the era of "alternative facts", there would basically still be the same types of stories about the levels themselves, but maybe not so much revisionism about how the games themselves are being received. I don't know if it would stop haters from calling the franchise "the Nickelback of video games, where if you've played one game, you've played them all." Talk about a very surface-level analysis.
Well, that's actually Activision's fault. I don't mind buying Call of Duty every year, as long as you do something new or have distinctive new features. For me, though Black Ops 4 was the low point in Call of Duty. BlackOut is the only thing that's "special" about Black Ops 4, but the rest of the game? If you go into regular multiplayer, you'll realize it's a trash game now. You spawn in, and in 5 seconds of your spawn, you're dead. Because Black Ops 4's map design make it so that each spawn is always in the same place, always one dimensional. Next time you spawn in, there's a player standing or sitting at the spawn, waiting for you to spwn so they can kill you as you spawn. Like, bro... that's not fun! I got sick of it the minute that I figured out the pattern. I jump back into Modern Warfare Remastered, the game - after 11-12 years... I can have fun, because the spawns are almost inconsistent - which is what you're supposed to aim for when you're dealing with spawns!
 

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