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upgrading

didn't know where to post this im upgrading from fx 8350 to ryzen 5 3600 so I can get all I can out of this evga rtx 2060 ko ultra looking at this mobo from newegg for 109 bucks.
opinions?
ASRock B450 Steel Legend AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard well I found this at newegg for 109 bucks has good reviews says will run ryzen 5 3600 right out of box.

didn't know where to post this im upgrading from fx 8350 to ryzen 5 3600 so I can get all I can out of this evga rtx 2060 ko ultra looking at this mobo from newegg for 109 bucks.
opinions?
ASRock B450 Steel Legend AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard well I found this at newegg for 109 bucks has good reviews says will run ryzen 5 3600 right out of box.
seems amazon and newegg are out of stock on a lot of mobos but they have some micro atx is micro atx ok to use

Asrock B450M/AC AM4 B450 Motherboard

I found this at amazon ,in one review a guy is using ryzen 53600 with the 2060 vid card and says its great,never used a micro board are they ok?
 
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ASRock get a lot of good reviews and are frequently chosen by a lot of YouTube influencers, so they are not a bad choice.

ATX/Micro-ATX/ITX form factors are all different sizes of motherboard, bigger boards like EATX will give you more PCI-e slots, extra fan headers, more Sata connections or other enhanced features, but they will need a bigger case.

Smaller form factors will allow you to build in smaller cases, small form factor PCs are getting really popular right now, the main disadvantages of smaller form factors are reduced airflow, fewer upgrade options and no support for multiple GPUs.

So, while there is nothing wrong with any format, the thing to consider is will the choice you make restrict future options, or are you paying extra for features you'll never need?

I'd recommend looking at YouTube channels such as Jayz 2 centre, Bitwit or Tiny Tom Logan's channel for information on form factors.

IIRC I think it was you that said you had a large case in the past, so keep in mind that a Micro-ATX or ITX board will look list in that case, also the case you have might not support newer small form factor motherboards, so check that too.

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Sorry, Jayz 2 cents, stupid spelling corrections strike agayn.

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thanks for reply helps a lot I do have full size atx case and have three antec blue case fans arriving today and I think case has multiple patterns for size of motherboard so I may get the asrock I like it. I don't think cooling will be problem,im not going to run more then one graphics card having the evga rtx 2060 ko ultra and the mobo does have 4 memory slots.
 

DizzyDemon

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Cool. Just make sure your case has the right compatibility for the motherboard, see if you can get a pdf of the manual or access to specifications online before ordering, a few minutes now might save you days spent in the RMA process and waiting for a replacement part in the future.

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What case do you have?

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I have an antec full tower case with see through side door its actually really nice just old,i just got my 3 antec 120 mm fans but looks like it only holds one the othersd must be 88m so I may look into some custom work on it, it is atx so if I get micro it should fit. and I don't want to make a rash decision on upgrade newegg and amazon are out of stock on a lot of mobos I like but are coming in during may and june and I really like the msi tomahawk b450 and the asrock steel legend, im still interested in the asrock b450/ac micro guy on amazon review is running same board with the ryzen 3600 and rtx 2060 and says its a great board so we will see.
 

DizzyDemon

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Cool, the Antec cases have always been good with cable management, IIRC, I've never used 1 myself but have friends that always put Antec as their first choice.

I looked up Micro-ATX and ITX and found that those form factors were introduced in 1997 and 2001, so you should not have any issues with regards to case compatibility.

I'm even more seriously thinking about a Micro-ATX build myself now.

I built ATX last time because I wanted expansion options and in the 8 years since I built it I've never really used them, other than adding extra storage, so a smaller build will give me more space in my room.

The money I have on the case and motherboard is enough to allow me to move from a 1660/2060/5600XT level graphics card to a 2070/5700XT GPU and stay within my anticipated budget.

I'm not planning on overclocking, so I don't need to go for any advanced cooling solutions and the stock cooler on the 3600X should be enough for a good gaming PC, if not I can upgrade that later.

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well I went on ebay and purchased the msi tomahawk b450 max and the ryzen 5 3600 then I purchased gskill ripjaws ram 16 gigs but iscrewed up and didn't notice it was 1 stick so I sent message I needed 2 sticks then I cancled the ram it was separate order 67 bucks we,ll see what happens with that,that's my luck seller is new egg so it should work out. im excited now was nervous because of money but I cant help myself and I don't have a wife to say no you cant lol.
 

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I have a wife and 4 children! So I have to be cautious about what I buy and when, when I build I need to feel certain it will last. £1600 for my last build, 8 years ago has worked to £200 a year, which s not too bad, and it still plays games at a decent frame rate. This has been because of a few strategic GPU upgrades and selling old GPUs on eBay.

If you start with the right platform and use a sensible upgrade path, you should get a decent lifespan out of it, I think the Ryzen 5 and 2060 combination is a good choice, a few years down the line if you want more performance you have the option to upgrade the graphics card and move up to a Ryzen 7 or 9, should you run into bottlenecks.
 
I agree if I would have done my research I would have gone this way 3 months ago im 55 and still learning lmao.

im probably going to have to wait for refund and make new order you got any ideas on decent ram im going 2 8 gig sticks of ddr4 3200

called newegg they helped a lot they saw my order and cancelled should see refund 3 to 5 days,went back on ebay and purchased gskill ripjaw two 8 gig sticks of ddr4 3200 so hopefully this new setup will power that evga ko 2060 ultra pretty good. gonna suck to have build it and reinstall but it is what it is and after downloading blizzard and call of duty im assuming ill keep my progress as far as rank.
 

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I carried out my first PC upgrade in 1998, built my first PC in 2000, and have been built more than 10 PCs since and I'm still learning myself.

I don't consider myself an expert, but I do enjoy learning about different aspects as well as helping others with their builds as it helps me learn more too.

I can't wait to read about your finished project, even though a PC build project is ever truly finished, they're all works in progress, right?

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im probably going to have to wait for refund and make new order you got any ideas on decent ram im going 2 8 gig sticks of ddr4 3200
3000/3200 appears to be the sweet spot between price and speed, right now that's the optimal solution.

In my opinion, 16GB is sufficient, 32GB is overkill right now, but should you need to, you could add another 16GB later if you decided to start doing a lot of memory intensive work like video editing.

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gonna suck to have build it and reinstall but it is what it is and after downloading blizzard and call of duty im assuming ill keep my progress as far as rank.
Your progress is saved in the cloud, I think it is saved by Activision, @Carlos would know for sure, but that's a good question.

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Your progress is saved in the cloud, I think it is saved by Activision, @Carlos would know for sure, but that's a good question.

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I just sent a message I think activision keeps it I hope just getting to rank 70 been a fight lol
Yes, and yes. All you need is your login. (Obviously.) Activision has your linked account(s).
 
awsome

just got email from newegg that all 3 items have been shipped the beast is on the way. its funny how newegg shows a lot out of stock but ebay has it in stock through newegg,im so confused!!!!!!! lol ill have to attach some pics when im done think about getting new case that come with 120 mm fans, my case only has three and just one is 120mm we,ll see!
 

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Yeah, I remember when 80mm was the biggest case fan you could get, then Zalman introduced the Flower range of CPU heatsinks with a massive 92mm fan in the middle, which offered great CPU cooling with lower noise levels. They might not have been the first to use larger fans, but they are the brand I remember because my copper and aluminium flower was the first cooler I had ever had with such a big fan. lol
 
ok im waiting on ryzen 5 3600 should I get aftermarket cooler or is the stock wraith cooler enough?
also I thought about new mid sized case but would a larger case allow more airflow which would help with better cooling?

this is my current antec case from way back its not fancy no cable routing but plenty of air flow and the side door is plexiglass with handle for on and off quickly,this needs a lot of cleaning,but im considering this one at best buy I can get today.

well picked up case today and really like think its going work out great its a nzxt h510
 

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If it were me, I'd wait to see how the stock cooler performs before replacing it, I'd run stock for long enough to monitor temps and assess whether or not there are any issues with the thermals.

Extra cooling becomes more of a priority when you're planning on overclocking.

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help please I have a new nzxt case but theres no where for cdrom, I know I can plug it in to install windows but no where to permantly mouint it,im just new to this new era of pc hardware,thanks for any help
 

DizzyDemon

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What version of Windows are you installing?

Installing Windows 10 is a lot faster if you install it from a USB drive, nobody uses optical drives these days,

Grab a 16GB USB drive and hit this link, the installation will take about 10-minutes instead of 90-minutes+ from an optical drive.

If you have a Windows 7 license key, install Windows 7, then run the Windows 10 installer as an upgrade and you will have a free, fully legal Windows 10 installation on your PC.
 

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What version of Windows are you installing?

Installing Windows 10 is a lot faster if you install it from a USB drive, nobody uses optical drives these days,

Grab a 16GB USB drive and hit this link, the installation will take about 10-minutes instead of 90-minutes+ from an optical drive.

If you have a Windows 7 license key, install Windows 7, then run the Windows 10 installer as an upgrade and you will have a free, fully legal Windows 10 installation on your PC.
Wow. No optical drives? PC gaming is going to be swallowed whole by Microsoft eventually. That's what I'm getting from this.
 

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