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Console Chumps and Aim Assist

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RealG4Sure

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Aim assist has been in every trayarch/activion game lol i don’t play on pc but I would imagine it’s right their in the settings n00b lol
 
It's so funny how aim assist was introduced in this game...yet it is completely over blown. I get it, you console guys need a leg up to compete with us PC mouse/keyboard users, but at the same time you guys have the option to use the same devices right?
I am routinely the only PC player in many games and routinely at or near the top at the end. You can perform the sniper quick shoot just as easily on PC with practice but I find it lame and boring. Its much like the railgun in technique in Quake 2.
 
I'm pretty sure you're trolling based on your tone and pronounced flawed reasoning. In case you're serious though...

First off, have you tried playing with a controller? I'm going to say no because when you do you quickly find out that you're greatly exaggerating the effect that aim assist has. It still doesn't give players using a controller a level playing field, let alone an advantage.

To hear someone who uses a keyboard and mouse complain that people using a controller have an advantage over them is one of the more backwards statements I've heard in awhile. You keep mentioning how good you are, yet you're getting worked over by console+controller players. Any decent player with a mouse and keyboard will always best someone with a controller. They have the advantage of speed and precision, and the minor help that "assist" gives is never going to make up for that.

You claim a cheat is having an advantage that someone else can't replicate, but you have the ability to use a controller just as much as people with a controller have the ability to use a KB and mouse. If controller has such a large advantage then use it. But it doesn't and you know it, which is why you don't use one. Unless you play your console at a desk (why???) then using a KB and mouse is even harder there.

Give me a keyboard and mouse and a server full of controller players and I'll have 5+ K/D ratio everytime. I'm an average player, nowhere near "pro".
 

AntiCheatAgent94

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Assuming you are referring to me (from the references, it appears you are) thank you for your input..

But there is a flaw in your reasoning..

Aim Assist is NOT available on a PC, even with a controller.. And yes, I have tried it and it's simply not there... Or, if it IS there, it is to a degree that is so infinitesimal as to be no difference..

"A difference which makes no difference IS no difference."
-Commander Spock

So, my position stands.. If Aim Assist isn't available for a PC, then it should not be available for a Console...

If Console players feel their hardware is inferior (which seems to be the prevailing opinion, confirmed by your own comments) then it stands to reason that the CONSOLE players should upgrade their hardware.. NOT be given an unfair advantage..

But again, thanks for your input.. It's always nice to hear differing viewpoints and opinions.. :D
 

R.Rod

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Lifetime, PC player here with zero cod console XP. After spending a thousand hours or so playing cross platform in WZ and CW I can say the platform battle is (opinion here---->) pretty damn balanced. The only time the other players aim assist makes me grind my teeth is in close quarters combat. Mid to long range in WZ was no issue at all with practice. In CW aim assist feels like it dominates close to midrange heavily but is still doable with the right weapon setup. CW/SBMM with controller players I have to say is probably one of the most difficult Cod engagements I've ever had, it doesn't just get sweaty, it gets Epic sweaty. If there was an actual PC population to play with I would probably be there most of the time but I wouldn't change the cross platform experience for anything.
 

AntiCheatAgent94

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The only time the other players aim assist makes me grind my teeth is in close quarters combat.

Agreed....

The solution is really simple.. In Warzone allow PC players to play in PC ONLY servers...

But that would be the logical thing to do... :D

I'm pretty sure you're trolling based on your tone and pronounced flawed reasoning. In case you're serious though...

And, just for the record.. No.. No trolling.. Simply expending my indignation that TPTB would give an unfair advantage to platforms that they refuse to give to PC platforms..

Activision's PC bias is well documented... The Consoles are where the money's at for them, so that is who they cater to...

So, no.. No trolling.. Just facts...
 

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I'm pretty sure you're trolling based on your tone and pronounced flawed reasoning. In case you're serious though...

First off, have you tried playing with a controller? I'm going to say no because when you do you quickly find out that you're greatly exaggerating the effect that aim assist has. It still doesn't give players using a controller a level playing field, let alone an advantage.

To hear someone who uses a keyboard and mouse complain that people using a controller have an advantage over them is one of the more backwards statements I've heard in awhile. You keep mentioning how good you are, yet you're getting worked over by console+controller players. Any decent player with a mouse and keyboard will always best someone with a controller. They have the advantage of speed and precision, and the minor help that "assist" gives is never going to make up for that.

You claim a cheat is having an advantage that someone else can't replicate, but you have the ability to use a controller just as much as people with a controller have the ability to use a KB and mouse. If controller has such a large advantage then use it. But it doesn't and you know it, which is why you don't use one. Unless you play your console at a desk (why???) then using a KB and mouse is even harder there.

Give me a keyboard and mouse and a server full of controller players and I'll have 5+ K/D ratio everytime. I'm an average player, nowhere near "pro".
I know you're new, but if you want people to respect YOU, as your username says, "RespectThis," respect their information or opinions. If you can't agree, just "agree to disagree."

I'm the boss here, so discuss the issues, and keep it respectful. If you don't I will show you the front door.
 
Assuming you are referring to me (from the references, it appears you are) thank you for your input..

But there is a flaw in your reasoning..

Aim Assist is NOT available on a PC, even with a controller.. And yes, I have tried it and it's simply not there... Or, if it IS there, it is to a degree that is so infinitesimal as to be no difference..
Aim assist is exactly the same on PC when using a controller.

I have both the PC and Playstation version and there's no difference at all.
 

AntiCheatAgent94

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Aim assist is exactly the same on PC when using a controller.

I have both the PC and Playstation version and there's no difference at all.
That wasn't my experience.. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.. And I had chosen CONTROLLER in the SETTINGS and adjusted the AimBot accordingly... There was absolutely no aim assist in any way, shape or form...

But, apparently, your mileage may vary.. :D
 

Tigerfurlife

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It's so funny how aim assist was introduced in this game...yet it is completely over blown. I get it, you console guys need a leg up to compete with us PC mouse/keyboard users, but at the same time you guys have the option to use the same devices right? Seems that sales/money talks though, as well as whiners about PC players dominating console users in a legit matchup. They have skewed things so bad now that PC players need to be near pro to even compete in the game, which is a sad day in fps games if you ask me. Ya, I know, the console guys will admonish me for what I just said, but simply they do not know any better. It's a shame when real hand/eye coordination gets substituted for some fake augmented aim. Bad thing is most of these noobs don't even realize they are getting the assist...Maybe if they tried the game on a PC they would see just how lacking they were in comparison. Rant all you want console newbs...I have both platforms, but my heart lies with PC.
Wow, u contradicted yourself so bad! You are the one ranting! You seem posterior hurt if anyone does. You talk like a console owner doesn’t have a pc nor have played on a pc. Guess what? Nearly 99% of this world has played a game on Microsoft computers! Around 90% of console enthusiast own and are pc enthusiast! You said, “Pc players dominating console users in a legit matchup. They have skewed things so bad now that PC players need to be near pro to even compete in the game!” You contradicted yourself by admitting pc users HAVE to be PROS to compete with each other then on the other hand you said, “I get it, you console guys need a leg up to compete with us PC mouse/keyboard users, but at the same time you guys have the option to use the same devices right?” So which is it? Are console players dominated by pc players or do pc players need to be pros to have a chance in a legit match!?
I believe your issue stems from your ability to have a plethora of cheats, exploits and other commands that console users will never have and you play against console competition because in pc solely based matches the cheats make everyone even! You need to strip yourself of the delusions that because you can’t play on a console for whatever reason does not give pc players the right to have lay line with distance markers to opponents to where they are and who is where, cheats where bullet dmg is 100% on any part of the digital body and amongst the dozens and dozens of exploits, cheats, rubs, mods, lags and every little leg up and play the game as the developers intended and you will find yourself coming up very short along with thousands of other cheaters. Not saying you are one but if it walks and talks like a duck!
 
That wasn't my experience.. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.. And I had chosen CONTROLLER in the SETTINGS and adjusted the AimBot accordingly... There was absolutely no aim assist in any way, shape or form...

But, apparently, your mileage may vary.. :D
Thats just how the aim assist works.

It doesn't help you get on target, it just slows your sensitivity slightly when you are on target.

That wasn't my experience.. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.. And I had chosen CONTROLLER in the SETTINGS and adjusted the AimBot accordingly... There was absolutely no aim assist in any way, shape or form...

But, apparently, your mileage may vary.. :D
Did you by any chance have your field of view set higher on PC than on Console when you tried it?

That is the one thing I can think of that will make the aim assist feel different. I have my FOV set to 95 on both playstation and PC.

The aim assist will "feel" stronger on lower field of views because your view will get zoomed in more the lower your FOV gets.
 

Sepp

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Ok Guys let get this straight..

ANY aim assistance is cheating
ANY Software wich gieves you Aimbot and wallhack is cheating.
ANY modification wich is not official is cheating.
ANY stupid mix of diffrent hardware like Console mix with PC players is Cheating

Since the first versions COD they use cheats and aimbots...If you go down in this Game dont think you are a bad player...you just have not the cheats they use.

And NEVER belive the fools telling you there are no Cheaters and you are a bad Player !

I for myself did decide not to buy COD anymore until they use HARDWARE BANs
Means you get caught 1 Time cheating ,and the 2. TIme you cant use your COMPUTER anymore to play a COD Game OR any ACTIVISION Game.

NO MERCY WITCH CHEATERS !!

They waste your MONEY, they waste your TIME and they kill the Game you did buy to have FUN.
For me personaly its a form of cybercrime and a Software Developer wich tolerates it is like
Microsoft tolerating security holes in Windows. This is not acceptable.

The only way for a Customer to do something against it is simple...
Don`t buy Games from them anymore.

Oh yes before i forget....f*** your League shit.....Its worthless with 90% cheaters in the Game.
So first Place in COD Ranklist is worthless even if this Guy shouldnt use a Cheat because you never know.
 

Legionof1

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It's so funny how aim assist was introduced in this game...yet it is completely over blown. I get it, you console guys need a leg up to compete with us PC mouse/keyboard users, but at the same time you guys have the option to use the same devices right? Seems that sales/money talks though, as well as whiners about PC players dominating console users in a legit matchup. They have skewed things so bad now that PC players need to be near pro to even compete in the game, which is a sad day in fps games if you ask me. Ya, I know, the console guys will admonish me for what I just said, but simply they do not know any better. It's a shame when real hand/eye coordination gets substituted for some fake augmented aim. Bad thing is most of these noobs don't even realize they are getting the assist...Maybe if they tried the game on a PC they would see just how lacking they were in comparison. Rant all you want console newbs...I have both platforms, but my heart lies with PC.
 
Console players really make me laugh,

I will give you a perfect example. when lockdown started one of my best friends decided to buy PS4, the last console he owned was a PS1 so he hasn't played video games for year's, I don't even think he's ever played the online multiplayer game. He was completely shit the first few days and my other friends and I would always laugh at how bad he was. After a FUCKING month, maybe 2, this guy was getting more kills than me. I use to toy with him when we have 1v1s, now I actually have to concentrate. I have been playing mouse and keyboard for almost 5 years now and a controller since ps1. It took me around 3 years to get to a very comfortable level am now, I also have a 3kd even with sbmm, so am not some shit player. Aim assist is a fucking joke. My best mate took only only a few days to be competent and around 2 bloody months to be close to my level. Anytime I decide to use a controller just for fun, I end up stopping because I just feel like am cheating, that how dam easy aim assist is.

Pc players: Have you ever tried a controller and used a pistol and noticed how fucking easy it is. You can literally run around and dominate with a pistol

Console players: plug in a m&k and let's see how many kills you can get with a pistol


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5UT7H8AUqw
 
It's so funny how aim assist was introduced in this game...yet it is completely over blown. I get it, you console guys need a leg up to compete with us PC mouse/keyboard users, but at the same time you guys have the option to use the same devices right? Seems that sales/money talks though, as well as whiners about PC players dominating console users in a legit matchup. They have skewed things so bad now that PC players need to be near pro to even compete in the game, which is a sad day in fps games if you ask me. Ya, I know, the console guys will admonish me for what I just said, but simply they do not know any better. It's a shame when real hand/eye coordination gets substituted for some fake augmented aim. Bad thing is most of these noobs don't even realize they are getting the assist...Maybe if they tried the game on a PC they would see just how lacking they were in comparison. Rant all you want console newbs...I have both platforms, but my heart lies with PC.
You guys are the ones who introduced hacking. Get over aim assist, plenty kids in console trash even if we have aim assist. YOU guys bring hacks into every game, every single game bro.

Because some of us prefer the performance of a good PC and flexibility that consoles do not have. Also, some like myself who have been doing this a long time understand exactly what I am talking about here. It's pretty much like asking someone would you prefer this Ford Mustang or would you like to drive this Bugatti Veyron....?

Telling someone their not a good player is a pretty classic argument for you guys. I actually laugh at that justification. Salty? No, I am realistic. I've been competitive in OGL and CGL over the years, at one time (during Quake days) I was in the top 10 and played against top ranked players including Thresh (Google it if you do not know who he is).

I pretty much figured this would be the response I would get to my post. It basically shows your true ignorance to it all. It's widely documented at how overpowered it is. Again, I guess you missed the part where I said I have been exposed to it first hand.

From what I understand, the PC players using controllers do not get the aim assist handicap....that being said, I would challenge you to plug your controller into a PC and see if you are as good as you think you are ;)
Bro, do you know what aim assist does? Because y’all have no clue. All it does is slow down a TINY bit over the enemy. But most players run and gun, what does that mean? Lemme tell you PC kids, it means we run around the map centering the middle of the screen to corners and hit LT right when we see someone. Aim assist being OP? No lol PLENTY trash kids with controller, PLENTY. It doesn’t help if you have no aim. Mouse and keyboard is actually way more accurate because guess what? Your entire hand controls the mouse, compared to a thumb, plus I play claw, so that takes more skill then a mouse. You prolly got melted by a krig from deep and here you are posting about aim assist OP lmao most PC players camp back spawn and beam ppl. Or y’all busy hackin because “ aim assist “ lmao Cryin and complaining “ I want everyone to use M&K “ lmao or turn off cross play? But why do that when y’all know y’all play PC players who play just like y’all, camping in they spawn waitin for ppl to peek or hackin. Why play with your own? Let’s try and bully console players... oh they just beamed us cause aim assist helps his smg from 2 feet away shoot my body, console players suck LMFAOOOO that’s literally how y’all sound, when the community knows y’all the scum of cod lmao hackers... gotta love em.

Console players really make me laugh,

I will give you a perfect example. when lockdown started one of my best friends decided to buy PS4, the last console he owned was a PS1 so he hasn't played video games for year's, I don't even think he's ever played the online multiplayer game. He was completely shit the first few days and my other friends and I would always laugh at how bad he was. After a FUCKING month, maybe 2, this guy was getting more kills than me. I use to toy with him when we have 1v1s, now I actually have to concentrate. I have been playing mouse and keyboard for almost 5 years now and a controller since ps1. It took me around 3 years to get to a very comfortable level am now, I also have a 3kd even with sbmm, so am not some shit player. Aim assist is a fucking joke. My best mate took only only a few days to be competent and around 2 bloody months to be close to my level. Anytime I decide to use a controller just for fun, I end up stopping because I just feel like am cheating, that how dam easy aim assist is.

Pc players: Have you ever tried a controller and used a pistol and noticed how fucking easy it is. You can literally run around and dominate with a pistol

Console players: plug in a m&k and let's see how many kills you can get with a pistol


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5UT7H8AUqw
Cap lol I suck with pistols, you guys cry and cry, turn off cross play how about that? But wait why turn off cross play? Y’all don’t wanna play against other PC players. Know why? Hacks and they camp corners JUST like you lmao so complain about console players aim slowing down so little it means nothing, because y’all just want the game suited to y’all.

I find it hilarious that Console Kiddies claim that their Aimbots don't really help at all..

Yet, they are not willing to play with their aim assist off... Funny how that is, eh?? :D
Go play with other PC players, turn off cross play. Problem solved lmao
 

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@BoookyTheGOD Welcome to CoDForums.com! :)

That being said, I'm sorry but you need to calm down. Its okay to discuss things, and make your case, which you did. The problem is you're hurling snide remarks like...
Go play with other PC players, turn off cross play. Problem solved lmao
[I chose this because it's short. But my point remains.] Let's calm down and respect others.

Thank you, and have a nice day.
 
You guys are the ones who introduced hacking. Get over aim assist, plenty kids in console trash even if we have aim assist. YOU guys bring hacks into every game, every single game bro.


Bro, do you know what aim assist does? Because y’all have no clue. All it does is slow down a TINY bit over the enemy. But most players run and gun, what does that mean? Lemme tell you PC kids, it means we run around the map centering the middle of the screen to corners and hit LT right when we see someone. Aim assist being OP? No lol PLENTY trash kids with controller, PLENTY. It doesn’t help if you have no aim. Mouse and keyboard is actually way more accurate because guess what? Your entire hand controls the mouse, compared to a thumb, plus I play claw, so that takes more skill then a mouse. You prolly got melted by a krig from deep and here you are posting about aim assist OP lmao most PC players camp back spawn and beam ppl. Or y’all busy hackin because “ aim assist “ lmao Cryin and complaining “ I want everyone to use M&K “ lmao or turn off cross play? But why do that when y’all know y’all play PC players who play just like y’all, camping in they spawn waitin for ppl to peek or hackin. Why play with your own? Let’s try and bully console players... oh they just beamed us cause aim assist helps his smg from 2 feet away shoot my body, console players suck LMFAOOOO that’s literally how y’all sound, when the community knows y’all the scum of cod lmao hackers... gotta love em.


Cap lol I suck with pistols, you guys cry and cry, turn off cross play how about that? But wait why turn off cross play? Y’all don’t wanna play against other PC players. Know why? Hacks and they camp corners JUST like you lmao so complain about console players aim slowing down so little it means nothing, because y’all just want the game suited to y’all.


Go play with other PC players, turn off cross play. Problem solved lmao
You are a very silly boy, I would so love to turn off cross-play, but anytime I do, I have to wait for almost 30mins, maybe longer before I can find a game, Plus console players are cheating more than pc players nowadays, hence why COD took action a few months ago. Think before talking.
 
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